Gavin and Stacey star Larry Lamb admits ‘we knew it was a hit from Day One’

The ‘nation’s favourite dad’ as Mick Shipman, Larry Lamb says his role in the series has made him a ‘better person’ but there is no chance of a date with Pam in real life

Gavin and Stacey star: We knew it was a hit from Day One(Image: Pete Jones)

Larry Lamb laughs out loud when asked if he could have a real life romance with his ‘TV wife’ Alison Steadman. In ‘Gavin and Stacey’, his character Mick Shipman, the ‘nation’s favourite dad’, is married to Pam, played by Steadman.

Their relationship was loved by millions of fans; the Gavin and Stacey finale was seen by almost 20m last Christmas, making it one of the most watched scripted TV shows of the century. But Larry assures fans on his nationwide book tour that their love affair comes from the ‘wonderful’ script.

Asked if they could get together if they were both single, he says: “Hang on a minute, I have to be careful, we have the Daily Mirror in the room.” The veteran actor, star of TV and Hollywood films, tells a sell-out crowd that he would never name his favourite leading lady. And he jokes that there is not a ‘cat in hell’s chance’ of a dalliance with Steadman.

Larry Lamb with Alison Steadman, Adrian Scarborough and Melanie Walters
Larry Lamb was joined by his former co-stars for the event (Image: Pete Jones)

“The reason it works is because it’s written that way,” he explained.”It’s a brilliant creative relationship on screen. “We live ten minutes away from each other, but we never see each other. If it’s her birthday, I may send a flower. You know what I mean? It is a really wonderful relationship playing those two characters. But Alison is nothing like Pam in real life. She’s a very, very private person, not at all like that character. And I’m not nice.”

Larry, 77, has just written his first novel, ‘All Wrapped Up’, based on his own experiences on a movie set, and he talks about that and his colourful life off screen at Newcastle’s Tyneside cinema.

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He loves the region and had a role in the 1996 BBC series ‘Our Friends in the North’. His 50-year career includes three Superman movies with Christopher Reeve, the first filmed in 1977, villain Archie Mitchell in EastEnders (2008/9) and ‘ I’m a Celebrity ‘ nine years ago. There were also TV series like Triangle, Minder, and Lovejoy.

He revealed that the entire cast of ‘Gavin and Stacey’ knew they were onto a winner from their first day together, at a first read through of the script back in 2006. He recalled: “Everybody knew when we read it for the first time; it is the day when you will gather in some room somewhere, usually in Soho, that’s when you kind of get a feeling of how it’s going to work.

Larry Lamb at book signing in Newcastle
Larry Lamb with his debut novel(Image: Daily Mirror)

“You meet the people in person and you get a feel for the first production of it. Clearly was something that really, really worked and we all got that. Everyone knew it.” The show missed out on the BAFTA ‘Memorable Moment’ award this year

Larry ‘wrote a little speech’ on behalf of the cast and crew. “The last line was that in writing Gavin and Stacey, Ruth Jones and James Corden had created a family that everyone could be a part of forever,” he said. “For that I thanked them from the bottom of my heart. That’s really the way I felt, and I know the way we all felt. It was this super special thing, and they finished it in a way that satisfied everybody.”

For his novel, Larry drew on his experiences filming in the Dominican Republic, in the 1985 mini-series ‘The Life of Christopher Columbus’ with Faye Dunaway and hellraiser Oliver Reed. “The one thing I learned about filming in the Caribbean is forget it, don’t go anywhere near it,” he said. “It is absolutely diabolical. I was playing a Spanish conquistador. I’ve got a great big bronze helmet on. I’ve got a big breastplate, I’ve got a kilt on, great big tights, it’s insane. On a hot horse all day long; I would say, no don’t do it.”

But he loved the camaraderie of the set, a feeling of belonging which he did not have in his troubled childhood in Edmonton, London. The British actor Jeremy Brett helped Larry land his big break on Broadway. Brett was offered a role with a Northern Irish accent.

Larry Lamb at the Baftas with cast of Gavin and Stacey
The Gavin & Stacey cast at the Baftas (Image: PA)

Larry, a complete novice, had just given up a highly paid job in Canada to get into acting. But he had lived in Ireland and is a gifted mimic. “So I went to New York, I did an audition and finished up in a big Broadway show, 20 months after I had become an actor,” he said. “Fluke, fluke, fluke, Broadway. It went quite well, but it was so nerve wracking.” He returned to the UK in 1977 to film the first of the Superman movies with Christopher Reeve. He recalls the set at Shepperton Studios with hidden script devices for Brando. “They had big idiot boards up on the walls for his lines,” he said. “I walked onto the set and they were left up on the wall, you know, and I still can’t believe it. I was a new boy on the block. I didn’t have anything to say. You just move at the right time, distanced from the main roles. I would leave to get the bus and there was a long line of chauffeur driven cars ready to take all the stars home. “One night, there was Gene Hackman walking towards me. I introduced myself to him, he was nice. It was a huge production. There was one guy whose only task seemed to be trimming the director’s cigars. I thought: ‘that’s the job I’d like.”

He loved playing the bad guy in EastEnders. “Villains are much easier,” he told the Mirror as he signed copies of his book for fans. “With comedy, everything has to be spot on.” Off screen, he has had a complicated love life. At 21, he was already married and living in London; after the split, there came a marriage to an American nurse; when that marriage broke up, he was involved with a former nun.

He then fell in love and married the mother of his son, George Lamb; there were dalliances with Lady Colin Campbell, and an Iberia airline stewardess. At the end of ‘I’m a Celebrity’ in 2016, he was seen with former partner Marie Hugo, the artist and great granddaughter of the Les Miserables author Victor Hugo.

They also parted and he spoke of living alone this year. Now, he wants to tell how playing Mick Shipman changed his outlook on life, a follow up to his 2011 memoir ‘Mummy’s Boy’.

“The point where Gavin and Stacey came into my life, that’s what I think I’m going to be writing about next,” he said. “Touching on this extraordinary career, but just about me and Mick. I feel there’s something else in me that touches on the relationship between me and Mick. I’m a much better person for having played him. A lot of Mick has come though in me. “I am writing poems about the end of life; you get into your 70s, there is a door, it says ‘Way Out’. And it fascinates me. It is easier to deal with if I am writing about it and thinking about it and not making light of it, just confronting it. Because we don’t confront it here. “I’ve had a house in Normandy for years and am very involved with local people there. Every year, there is Saint’s Day. And so the tradition is everybody goes to the graveyard. There was an old lady there, she was 97, 98 and she said: ‘I really didn’t want to be buried next to him. I hated him.’ She was moving her grave. They are much more realistic about death over there.

“And my way of looking about it is to write about it.” At the end of the night, he tells me that has no regrets. “That is what I have loved about looking back and reflecting on life,” he said. “Your realise there is no point in having regrets.”

* All Wrapped Up, by Softwood Books, is available now, RRP £9.99. To purchase the book, or tickets to Larry’s other tour dates, go to www.linktr.ee/ larrylambofficial.

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Gavin and Stacey star Larry Lamb admits ‘we knew it was a hit from Day One’

The ‘nation’s favourite dad’ as Mick Shipman, Larry Lamb says his role in the series has made him a ‘better person’ but there is no chance of a date with Pam in real life

Gavin and Stacey star: We knew it was a hit from Day One(Image: Pete Jones)

Larry Lamb laughs out loud when asked if he could have a real life romance with his ‘TV wife’ Alison Steadman. In ‘Gavin and Stacey’, his character Mick Shipman, the ‘nation’s favourite dad’, is married to Pam, played by Steadman.

Their relationship was loved by millions of fans; the Gavin and Stacey finale was seen by almost 20m last Christmas, making it one of the most watched scripted TV shows of the century. But Larry assures fans on his nationwide book tour that their love affair comes from the ‘wonderful’ script.

Asked if they could get together if they were both single, he says: “Hang on a minute, I have to be careful, we have the Daily Mirror in the room.” The veteran actor, star of TV and Hollywood films, tells a sell-out crowd that he would never name his favourite leading lady. And he jokes that there is not a ‘cat in hell’s chance’ of a dalliance with Steadman.

Larry Lamb with Alison Steadman, Adrian Scarborough and Melanie Walters
Larry Lamb was joined by his former co-stars for the event (Image: Pete Jones)

“The reason it works is because it’s written that way,” he explained.”It’s a brilliant creative relationship on screen. “We live ten minutes away from each other, but we never see each other. If it’s her birthday, I may send a flower. You know what I mean? It is a really wonderful relationship playing those two characters. But Alison is nothing like Pam in real life. She’s a very, very private person, not at all like that character. And I’m not nice.”

Larry, 77, has just written his first novel, ‘All Wrapped Up’, based on his own experiences on a movie set, and he talks about that and his colourful life off screen at Newcastle’s Tyneside cinema.

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He loves the region and had a role in the 1996 BBC series ‘Our Friends in the North’. His 50-year career includes three Superman movies with Christopher Reeve, the first filmed in 1977, villain Archie Mitchell in EastEnders (2008/9) and ‘ I’m a Celebrity ‘ nine years ago. There were also TV series like Triangle, Minder, and Lovejoy.

He revealed that the entire cast of ‘Gavin and Stacey’ knew they were onto a winner from their first day together, at a first read through of the script back in 2006. He recalled: “Everybody knew when we read it for the first time; it is the day when you will gather in some room somewhere, usually in Soho, that’s when you kind of get a feeling of how it’s going to work.

Larry Lamb at book signing in Newcastle
Larry Lamb with his debut novel(Image: Daily Mirror)

“You meet the people in person and you get a feel for the first production of it. Clearly was something that really, really worked and we all got that. Everyone knew it.” The show missed out on the BAFTA ‘Memorable Moment’ award this year

Larry ‘wrote a little speech’ on behalf of the cast and crew. “The last line was that in writing Gavin and Stacey, Ruth Jones and James Corden had created a family that everyone could be a part of forever,” he said. “For that I thanked them from the bottom of my heart. That’s really the way I felt, and I know the way we all felt. It was this super special thing, and they finished it in a way that satisfied everybody.”

For his novel, Larry drew on his experiences filming in the Dominican Republic, in the 1985 mini-series ‘The Life of Christopher Columbus’ with Faye Dunaway and hellraiser Oliver Reed. “The one thing I learned about filming in the Caribbean is forget it, don’t go anywhere near it,” he said. “It is absolutely diabolical. I was playing a Spanish conquistador. I’ve got a great big bronze helmet on. I’ve got a big breastplate, I’ve got a kilt on, great big tights, it’s insane. On a hot horse all day long; I would say, no don’t do it.”

But he loved the camaraderie of the set, a feeling of belonging which he did not have in his troubled childhood in Edmonton, London. The British actor Jeremy Brett helped Larry land his big break on Broadway. Brett was offered a role with a Northern Irish accent.

Larry Lamb at the Baftas with cast of Gavin and Stacey
The Gavin & Stacey cast at the Baftas (Image: PA)

Larry, a complete novice, had just given up a highly paid job in Canada to get into acting. But he had lived in Ireland and is a gifted mimic. “So I went to New York, I did an audition and finished up in a big Broadway show, 20 months after I had become an actor,” he said. “Fluke, fluke, fluke, Broadway. It went quite well, but it was so nerve wracking.” He returned to the UK in 1977 to film the first of the Superman movies with Christopher Reeve. He recalls the set at Shepperton Studios with hidden script devices for Brando. “They had big idiot boards up on the walls for his lines,” he said. “I walked onto the set and they were left up on the wall, you know, and I still can’t believe it. I was a new boy on the block. I didn’t have anything to say. You just move at the right time, distanced from the main roles. I would leave to get the bus and there was a long line of chauffeur driven cars ready to take all the stars home. “One night, there was Gene Hackman walking towards me. I introduced myself to him, he was nice. It was a huge production. There was one guy whose only task seemed to be trimming the director’s cigars. I thought: ‘that’s the job I’d like.”

He loved playing the bad guy in EastEnders. “Villains are much easier,” he told the Mirror as he signed copies of his book for fans. “With comedy, everything has to be spot on.” Off screen, he has had a complicated love life. At 21, he was already married and living in London; after the split, there came a marriage to an American nurse; when that marriage broke up, he was involved with a former nun.

He then fell in love and married the mother of his son, George Lamb; there were dalliances with Lady Colin Campbell, and an Iberia airline stewardess. At the end of ‘I’m a Celebrity’ in 2016, he was seen with former partner Marie Hugo, the artist and great granddaughter of the Les Miserables author Victor Hugo.

They also parted and he spoke of living alone this year. Now, he wants to tell how playing Mick Shipman changed his outlook on life, a follow up to his 2011 memoir ‘Mummy’s Boy’.

“The point where Gavin and Stacey came into my life, that’s what I think I’m going to be writing about next,” he said. “Touching on this extraordinary career, but just about me and Mick. I feel there’s something else in me that touches on the relationship between me and Mick. I’m a much better person for having played him. A lot of Mick has come though in me. “I am writing poems about the end of life; you get into your 70s, there is a door, it says ‘Way Out’. And it fascinates me. It is easier to deal with if I am writing about it and thinking about it and not making light of it, just confronting it. Because we don’t confront it here. “I’ve had a house in Normandy for years and am very involved with local people there. Every year, there is Saint’s Day. And so the tradition is everybody goes to the graveyard. There was an old lady there, she was 97, 98 and she said: ‘I really didn’t want to be buried next to him. I hated him.’ She was moving her grave. They are much more realistic about death over there.

“And my way of looking about it is to write about it.” At the end of the night, he tells me that has no regrets. “That is what I have loved about looking back and reflecting on life,” he said. “Your realise there is no point in having regrets.”

* All Wrapped Up, by Softwood Books, is available now, RRP £9.99. To purchase the book, or tickets to Larry’s other tour dates, go to www.linktr.ee/ larrylambofficial.

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Ombudsman wins at Royal Ascot but Harry’s Girl dies

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Ombudsman won the Prince of Wales’s Stakes at Royal Ascot where Wednesday’s racing was overshadowed by a fatal injury for filly Harry’s Girl in the opening contest.

William Buick sent the 7-1 winner Ombudsman clear of runner-up Anmaat in the final furlong, with See The Fire third.

The two-length victory was the second of the day for trainers John and Thady Gosden.

Favourite Los Angeles was back in fifth and appeared to pay the price of a pace topping 40mph in the second furlong set by stablemate Continuous.

“It was a case of waiting for the gap and this horse has an extraordinary turn of foot,” said John Gosden of Ombudsman.

Earlier, Harry’s Girl was injured while racing in the day’s first race, the Queen Mary Stakes, which was won by favourite True Love.

The Gosdens also won the Duke Of Cambridge Stakes with Crimson Advocate after jockey James McDonald swooped down the outside.

The Australia-based Kiwi rider timed his run to perfection on the 13-2 chance, who won the King Charles III Stakes at the meeting last year.

But the Gosdens were unable to give King Charles and Queen Camilla a winner as their horse Rainbows Edge finished seventh behind 11-1 victor Miss Information in the Kensington Palace Stakes.

Harry’s Girl fatally injured in first race

Harry's Girl (left) won her first race at Newmarket in AprilGetty Images

The first race of the 2025 meeting’s second day was overshadowed by the death of Harry’s Girl.

Harry’s Girl, trained by Richard Hannon, was pulled up with a serious leg injury by jockey Sean Levey during the Queen Mary Stakes.

The filly broke down midway through the five-furlong sprint for two-year-old horses.

“Unfortunately, Harry’s Girl suffered a fatal injury during the Queen Mary Stakes,” a statement said.

“Our thoughts go out to all connections at this time.”

Harry’s Girl, ridden by Sean Levey, was running in her third race, having previously finished first and second.

The race was won by 9-4 favourite True Love, under Ryan Moore for trainer Aidan O’Brien, from 100-1 shot Flowerhead.

Meanwhile My Cloud, the 3-1 favourite ridden by Silvestre de Sousa for trainer Roger Varian, was the shortest-priced winner in the history of the Royal Hunt Cup.

Irish trainer Paddy Twomey celebrated his first Royal Ascot winner as unbeaten Carmers won the Queen’s Vase for a third success on the trot.

Rainbows Edge beaten for the King

The Princess of Wales pulled out of a planned appearance at the course on Wednesday.

Catherine, who is making a gradual return to public life after her cancer diagnosis last year, is trying to find the right balance as she fully returns to public engagements, according to royal sources.

King Charles and Queen Camilla had hoped for a winner with Rainbows Edge, but despite being sent off favourite, he could not match Miss Information.

Winning jockey Oisin Murphy punched the air before hitting the finishing line on Andrew Balding’s runner.

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‘Kim Woodburn pushing me to the ground ended our friendship – but she haunted my dreams’

Following Kim Woodburn’s death, her former co-star Aggie MacKenzie has reflected on the breakdown of their strained friendship – revealing a backstage bust-up during a pantomime with Kim shoving her was the final straw

‘Kim Woodburn pushing me ended our friendship – but she still haunted my dreams’(Image: Channel 4)

Kim Woodburn and Aggie MacKenzie rose to fame as the cleaning dream team on the hit Channel 4 series How Clean Is Your House?, which aired from 2003 to 2009 in the UK.

The show followed the pair as they visited some of the filthiest homes in Britain, delivering brutal home truths, hygiene education, and deep-cleaning transformations. Their contrasting personalities and no-nonsense approach made them both entertaining and oddly endearing, but behind-the-scenes of the show there was a huge rift brewing between the two loved TV hosts.

Although they became huge household names as the grime-fighting duo on How Clean Is Your House?, Kim and Aggie were far from best friends once the cameras stopped rolling. While their on-screen chemistry was key to the show’s success – with Kim’s fiery attitude bouncing off Aggie’s calm, scientific approach – tensions simmered beneath. Over the years, Kim has been outspoken about their lack of personal connection, bluntly stating that the pair “never got on” and that working together was purely professional.

Aggie and Kim had a strained relationship behind the scenes
Aggie and Kim had a strained relationship behind the scenes (Image: Liverpool Echo)

Aggie, 69, for her part, has been more reserved but has acknowledged that their relationship wasn’t close. She once hinted that the pair had “very different values” and approaches to life, which contributed to their distance.

Since the show ended in 2009, they never collaborated again, and public jabs have only cemented the idea that their clean-up act never extended to mending fences. Despite the strained dynamic, their mismatched personalities became part of what made the show such a success, with audiences drawn to the chaos and candour as much as the cleaning.

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Following the news of Kim’s death on Monday at the age of 83, Aggie has now delved into the reason behind their heartbreaking fallout, admitting that it was Kim’s inability to control her anger that was the final straw for her. Speaking to The Mirror, Aggie, who is now a successful yoga teacher in North London, recalled the incident that ended their somewhat civil working relationship.

The pair ended their friendship for good in 2009
The pair ended their friendship for good in 2009(Image: Channel 4)

Aggie says that she and Kim barely exchanged any words and ‘never really spoke again’ following the huge fallout in January 2008. She says they were starring together as the Ugly Sisters in pantomime Cinderella in Brighton when they had a bust up.

Recalling the traumatic and triggering, Aggie says they were waiting in the wings to go on, but that Kim didn’t move when their cue came. Aggie then tapped Kim on the shoulder, went out, then led her off the stage once their scene was done. It was then that all hell broke loose.

“Kim missed her cue so I tapped her on the shoulder. We went on and did our scene, but when we came out at the other side, Kim was furious. She pushed me. She actually pushed me so hard that I fell over,” Aggie claims. “I lost it then. I really really lost it with her. I was so furious because I wasn’t expecting to be pushed over like that.”

Aggie then recalled the awkward fallout from the untimely row as the whole Pantomime show was thrown into complete chaos. “The whole thing kind of blew up then. She went off to her dressing room and she was crying her eyes out. She was really upset and I was really upset – I was so furious.”

Aggie has no regrets about not reaching out to Kim
Aggie has no regrets about not reaching out to Kim(Image: Channel 4)

As Kim and Aggie were taking some time to themselves to gather their emotions during the interval, Aggie says that the producers were scrambling to ensure that the show would continue. In order to ensure that audiences weren’t let down, they had a lead dancer on standby to take over Kim’s role as she insisted that she wasn’t going back out on stage or anywhere near Aggie.

“The lead dancer was being made up to take her part because she was refusing to go back on stage, and this was an audience of hundreds of people. It was really a huge problem and the interval had to be extended by a lot actually. But at the last minute Kim stormed out of her dressing room and shouted ‘I’m going back out there’.

“It was awful. She came on and it was so obvious that she had been crying. I knew there was people in the audience thinking to themselves ‘what the f**k is going on here’. It was mental. And after all of that I was just done. It felt like she had kind of crushed me. The disrespect was so much and I knew that I couldn’t actually continue being civil anymore without an apology.”

When asked if she ever received an apology from Kim, Aggie laughed. “No, no, no, no. I don’t think that Kim knew how to apologise to anyone,” she chimed. “She was a very complex person. Essentially, she probably had no confidence, she probably deep down hated herself, and so in order to survive she had to put on a big front to keep herself protected and to keep people away. If she apologised to me, that would be showing weakness in her eyes. So no, I never got an apology from her.”

Kim and Aggie worked together for over six years on How Clean Is Your House?
Kim and Aggie worked together for over six years on How Clean Is Your House?(Image: Channel 4)

Kim’s death was announced to the world on Tuesday, June 17, when her representatives confirmed that she had passed away from a short illness. A representative for Kim shared in a statement: “It is with immense sadness that we let you know our beloved Kim Woodburn passed away yesterday following a short illness.

“Kim was an incredibly kind, caring, charismatic and strong person. Her husband Peter is heartbroken at the loss of his soulmate. We are so proud of the amazing things Kim achieved in her life and career. We kindly ask that Kim’s husband and close friends are given the time and privacy they need to grieve. We will not be releasing any further details.”

Like most of the nation, Aggie too was left in shock when she heard about Kim’s untimely death. “I was really surprised. I was so shocked, because I didn’t know that she had been ill. I know that it was a short illness but I don’t know how long it went on for. It felt so out of the blue. But I suppose the day was going to come at some point, unless I died first.”

When asked about the last time they spoke, Aggie was unable to recall a certain time, admitting that it could well have been over 15 years since they actually communicated with one another after the end of How Clean Is Your House. However, Kim did regularly visit Aggie in her dreams – and it spurred on a desire for reconciliation in her.

Aggie has no memory of the last time she spoke to Kim
Aggie has no memory of the last time she spoke to Kim(Image: Ken McKay/ITV/REX/Shutterstock)

“I have no memory of the last time I spoke to Kim. It was years and years ago. But I did used to dream about Kim a lot, but I never actually saw her in real life again. The dreams were mostly about us making up and being friendly again. They were kind of telling me that life is short and it made me wonder if we should just be nice to one another.

“But I never reached out after them, even though a part of me did want to reconcile. I never wanted not to be her friend, but she didn’t really do friendships actually. She was a very untrusting person and she was very suspicious of everyone and she was never able to let her guard down, so it was extremely difficult to try and get close to her. I think she always felt as though people were going to turn on her or do her over, so it was hard to get through those walls,” Aggie recalled.

Despite having the recurring dreams about Kim, and despite the fact that she has now died, Aggie has admitted that she has no regrets when it comes to not reaching out to her former co-star again. “I don’t have any regrets about not reaching out to Kim.”

TV Presenter Kim Woodburn with her husband Peter (left)

Offering a rare insight into Kim’s marriage with husband of 46-years Peter Woodburn, Aggie said that Peter was the only person that Kim ever spoke softly and sweetly of. “I feel so sorry for him,” Aggie said after learning of Kim’s death. “I feel like he is really going to be lost without her. I feel sad for Peter.”

“Kim was always very sweet to Peter. They were together for decades and they seemed to be very dedicated to one another. She never ever dissed him to me and in the rare times that she would let her guard down, she would never say a bad word about Peter. She was never unkind about him. There was a lot of love there and I know that he really did love her,” Aggie shared.

Addressing the news of Kim’s death on Tuesday, Aggie told The Mirror: “Kim was a tormented soul, but now she’s finally at peace. We clashed often. Behind the fierce persona was deep pain and incredible strength. She survived because she had to. I hope she’s resting now. She was an unforgettable woman.”

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‘Kim Woodburn pushing me to the ground ended our friendship – but she haunted my dreams’

Following Kim Woodburn’s death, her former co-star Aggie MacKenzie has reflected on the breakdown of their strained friendship – revealing a backstage bust-up during a pantomime with Kim shoving her was the final straw

‘Kim Woodburn pushing me ended our friendship – but she still haunted my dreams’(Image: Channel 4)

Kim Woodburn and Aggie MacKenzie rose to fame as the cleaning dream team on the hit Channel 4 series How Clean Is Your House?, which aired from 2003 to 2009 in the UK.

The show followed the pair as they visited some of the filthiest homes in Britain, delivering brutal home truths, hygiene education, and deep-cleaning transformations. Their contrasting personalities and no-nonsense approach made them both entertaining and oddly endearing, but behind-the-scenes of the show there was a huge rift brewing between the two loved TV hosts.

Although they became huge household names as the grime-fighting duo on How Clean Is Your House?, Kim and Aggie were far from best friends once the cameras stopped rolling. While their on-screen chemistry was key to the show’s success – with Kim’s fiery attitude bouncing off Aggie’s calm, scientific approach – tensions simmered beneath. Over the years, Kim has been outspoken about their lack of personal connection, bluntly stating that the pair “never got on” and that working together was purely professional.

Aggie and Kim had a strained relationship behind the scenes
Aggie and Kim had a strained relationship behind the scenes (Image: Liverpool Echo)

Aggie, 69, for her part, has been more reserved but has acknowledged that their relationship wasn’t close. She once hinted that the pair had “very different values” and approaches to life, which contributed to their distance.

Since the show ended in 2009, they never collaborated again, and public jabs have only cemented the idea that their clean-up act never extended to mending fences. Despite the strained dynamic, their mismatched personalities became part of what made the show such a success, with audiences drawn to the chaos and candour as much as the cleaning.

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Following the news of Kim’s death on Monday at the age of 83, Aggie has now delved into the reason behind their heartbreaking fallout, admitting that it was Kim’s inability to control her anger that was the final straw for her. Speaking to The Mirror, Aggie, who is now a successful yoga teacher in North London, recalled the incident that ended their somewhat civil working relationship.

The pair ended their friendship for good in 2009
The pair ended their friendship for good in 2009(Image: Channel 4)

Aggie says that she and Kim barely exchanged any words and ‘never really spoke again’ following the huge fallout in January 2008. She says they were starring together as the Ugly Sisters in pantomime Cinderella in Brighton when they had a bust up.

Recalling the traumatic and triggering, Aggie says they were waiting in the wings to go on, but that Kim didn’t move when their cue came. Aggie then tapped Kim on the shoulder, went out, then led her off the stage once their scene was done. It was then that all hell broke loose.

“Kim missed her cue so I tapped her on the shoulder. We went on and did our scene, but when we came out at the other side, Kim was furious. She pushed me. She actually pushed me so hard that I fell over,” Aggie claims. “I lost it then. I really really lost it with her. I was so furious because I wasn’t expecting to be pushed over like that.”

Aggie then recalled the awkward fallout from the untimely row as the whole Pantomime show was thrown into complete chaos. “The whole thing kind of blew up then. She went off to her dressing room and she was crying her eyes out. She was really upset and I was really upset – I was so furious.”

Aggie has no regrets about not reaching out to Kim
Aggie has no regrets about not reaching out to Kim(Image: Channel 4)

As Kim and Aggie were taking some time to themselves to gather their emotions during the interval, Aggie says that the producers were scrambling to ensure that the show would continue. In order to ensure that audiences weren’t let down, they had a lead dancer on standby to take over Kim’s role as she insisted that she wasn’t going back out on stage or anywhere near Aggie.

“The lead dancer was being made up to take her part because she was refusing to go back on stage, and this was an audience of hundreds of people. It was really a huge problem and the interval had to be extended by a lot actually. But at the last minute Kim stormed out of her dressing room and shouted ‘I’m going back out there’.

“It was awful. She came on and it was so obvious that she had been crying. I knew there was people in the audience thinking to themselves ‘what the f**k is going on here’. It was mental. And after all of that I was just done. It felt like she had kind of crushed me. The disrespect was so much and I knew that I couldn’t actually continue being civil anymore without an apology.”

When asked if she ever received an apology from Kim, Aggie laughed. “No, no, no, no. I don’t think that Kim knew how to apologise to anyone,” she chimed. “She was a very complex person. Essentially, she probably had no confidence, she probably deep down hated herself, and so in order to survive she had to put on a big front to keep herself protected and to keep people away. If she apologised to me, that would be showing weakness in her eyes. So no, I never got an apology from her.”

Kim and Aggie worked together for over six years on How Clean Is Your House?
Kim and Aggie worked together for over six years on How Clean Is Your House?(Image: Channel 4)

Kim’s death was announced to the world on Tuesday, June 17, when her representatives confirmed that she had passed away from a short illness. A representative for Kim shared in a statement: “It is with immense sadness that we let you know our beloved Kim Woodburn passed away yesterday following a short illness.

“Kim was an incredibly kind, caring, charismatic and strong person. Her husband Peter is heartbroken at the loss of his soulmate. We are so proud of the amazing things Kim achieved in her life and career. We kindly ask that Kim’s husband and close friends are given the time and privacy they need to grieve. We will not be releasing any further details.”

Like most of the nation, Aggie too was left in shock when she heard about Kim’s untimely death. “I was really surprised. I was so shocked, because I didn’t know that she had been ill. I know that it was a short illness but I don’t know how long it went on for. It felt so out of the blue. But I suppose the day was going to come at some point, unless I died first.”

When asked about the last time they spoke, Aggie was unable to recall a certain time, admitting that it could well have been over 15 years since they actually communicated with one another after the end of How Clean Is Your House. However, Kim did regularly visit Aggie in her dreams – and it spurred on a desire for reconciliation in her.

Aggie has no memory of the last time she spoke to Kim
Aggie has no memory of the last time she spoke to Kim(Image: Ken McKay/ITV/REX/Shutterstock)

“I have no memory of the last time I spoke to Kim. It was years and years ago. But I did used to dream about Kim a lot, but I never actually saw her in real life again. The dreams were mostly about us making up and being friendly again. They were kind of telling me that life is short and it made me wonder if we should just be nice to one another.

“But I never reached out after them, even though a part of me did want to reconcile. I never wanted not to be her friend, but she didn’t really do friendships actually. She was a very untrusting person and she was very suspicious of everyone and she was never able to let her guard down, so it was extremely difficult to try and get close to her. I think she always felt as though people were going to turn on her or do her over, so it was hard to get through those walls,” Aggie recalled.

Despite having the recurring dreams about Kim, and despite the fact that she has now died, Aggie has admitted that she has no regrets when it comes to not reaching out to her former co-star again. “I don’t have any regrets about not reaching out to Kim.”

TV Presenter Kim Woodburn with her husband Peter (left)

Offering a rare insight into Kim’s marriage with husband of 46-years Peter Woodburn, Aggie said that Peter was the only person that Kim ever spoke softly and sweetly of. “I feel so sorry for him,” Aggie said after learning of Kim’s death. “I feel like he is really going to be lost without her. I feel sad for Peter.”

“Kim was always very sweet to Peter. They were together for decades and they seemed to be very dedicated to one another. She never ever dissed him to me and in the rare times that she would let her guard down, she would never say a bad word about Peter. She was never unkind about him. There was a lot of love there and I know that he really did love her,” Aggie shared.

Addressing the news of Kim’s death on Tuesday, Aggie told The Mirror: “Kim was a tormented soul, but now she’s finally at peace. We clashed often. Behind the fierce persona was deep pain and incredible strength. She survived because she had to. I hope she’s resting now. She was an unforgettable woman.”

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My Administration Employed Over 5,000 Youth In Two Years — Kebbi Gov

In his first two years in office, Kebbi State governor Nasir Idris revealed that his administration had employed more than 5, 000 youths.

In response to assertions made by opposition groups that no youth had been employed in the state’s civil service, the governor made this known during an interaction with a political group in Birnin Kebbi.

Governor Idris emphasized the transparency commitment of his administration.

He said, “We will not make any promises or assert any claims that we have not done them.”

He described the employment statistics by breakdown, revealing that 2, 000 youths were hired as teachers, over 1,500 as health workers, and the rest as lawyers and other professionals.

The governor urged that such criticisms be fact-based, while also acknowledging the value of constructive criticism.

He stated that the public could examine every 5, 000 jobs and verify them.

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Governor Idris has stated his intention to mobilise significant government funds in the wake of the recent deadly armed banditry attacks in the southern region of the state, if the bandits’ lives and economic fortunes are still at risk.

The governor also disclosed that he had the necessary contacts with President Bola Tinubu to make some critical suggestions and requests for possible solutions to reducing or eliminating the threat in Kebbi State.

Following a deadly armed banditry attack in Tadurga town of Zuru local government, Major-General Muhammadu Sani Sami Gomo II, the emir of the country, arrived at the state capital and addressed a high-powered delegation from the four local governments of the country.

He reaffirmed his conviction that any responsible government should prioritize ensuring relative peace, protection of life, and property.

The governor argued that making a wise use of resources for security and genuine sacrifice were worthwhile endeavors.

Even if it means dumping the state treasury, Idris said, “I will do whatever is humanly possible to protect the lives of the people.”

He stated that “these are parts of the requests to be presented to Mr. for consideration,” pointing out that the state’s persistent attacks were caused by inadequate manpower, insufficient sophisticated weapons, a limited number of special military units, and the complicated nature of Kebbi State’s geographical terrain.

The state, in his opinion, has border crossings with the neighboring states of Zamfara, Sokoto, and Niger, both of which are generally thought to be the most affected.

Prior to the governor’s statement, the governor was informed by the emir of Zuru, Major-General Muhammadu Sani Sami Gomo II, that the weekend banditry attacks in Tadurga had claimed dozens of lives and valuable properties that have not been recovered.

The royal father warned that unless urgent measures are taken, the major cities of the emirate will soon experience an uncontrollable congestion of displaced people because the purpose of the visit included expressing gratitude and appreciation for the numerous developmental projects being carried out in the emirate.